February 3, 2008

survey results

In the box, write details about the specific kind of obstacle you want. If you don't like one of the choices of materials tell us that or just don't answer it.

Each person's set of answers has a line above and below it. Some people didn't answer all questions. That means they didn't like the material (or the question).

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a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - up ledge

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - wave, snakerun

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - ledges, varied height, minimum 8-10 feet long

d. steel obstacles - none

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - pyramid

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - none

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b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - pole jam

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a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - Two 15 inch high 8' by 5' manual pads. placed 25 feet after each other. Another one of same specs, but curves.

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - Replica of the Pier 7 manual pads from San Francisco.

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - one laying horizontally, another laying on top bisecting then 8 feet afterwards , 2 stacked up going longways. That way you can use the bisecting rock as a launch to the stacked granite blocks.

d. steel obstacles - an up-ledge of construction I-beams. Make it as an upledge, then on the sides make banks coming down the sides of them.

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - DEFINITELY NOT

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - DEFINITELY NOT

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a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - a downrail with small hubbas on the sides for frontside and backside

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - cement hip , also on side of hip smal 2flat 2 stair set on other side of funbox hip

d. steel obstacles - steel flat bar a long one round and square one

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - Radial Ledges, pool if possible

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - Marble hubbas

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - Quater Pipes, Mini ramp if possible

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - yes

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - Cement bowls with pool coping - use Grindline parks as a model.

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - up and down box similar to the one at the banks made from anything but wood

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - manny pad

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - better ledge than the dusty ones already there

d. steel obstacles - a straight unkinked flatbar

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - quarterpipe

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - An up and down ramp similar to the one at the brooklyn banks but made from anything but wood

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - Kicker with a ledge

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - a pool or bowl

d. steel obstacles - a pole jam

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - mini half pipe

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - rust in peace

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - This is the best way to go!! And transitions in the form of a bowl.

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - fun, but they chip out and get unusable after little use

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - Marble and granite are very good durable material and fun to skate... mimic nearby spots that are a bust

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - never ever use pre-fab... worse than not even having a park

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - Anything, as long as it has some flow. How about a snakerun that ends in a bowl, with a couple hips, round and angular (see Groton CT or any Sloppy Sam Park for examples of building concrete up from asphalt)

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - Same as above. Consider creating two areas. One smaller street area with a variety of ledges, boxes and rails. And another section that is oriented more for experienced transition skaters with a variety of obstacles (see Grindline and Dreamland skateparks for inspiration and ideas)

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - sure, maybe a couple of walls with stone or granite coping. Or a couple of banks heading up to some boulders (see Volcom Skatepark in Mammoth, CA for an example of that)

d. steel obstacles - no

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - no

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - NO! If you want to make something unique and worth the effort, something that has any kind of impact on the skateboarding community in NYC and beyond, dump the idea of prefab obstacles. Never. It is a waste. This is New York. Lets have a skatepark that reflects the creativity and diversity of this city. Something truly unique! Look at some of the 'Do it yourself' parks around the nation, Burnside in Portland, FDR in Philadelphia. Be inspired!

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - granite ledges

d. steel obstacles - rails

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - euro gaps mini ramp

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - bowls with pool coping or metal coping full pipes cradles spine mini ramp

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - Enclosed pool with shallow end steps, 9' deep, 5' shallow, cast in place or pool coping. This will attract adult skaters!

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - concrete round wall that can be built up over time

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - 2 concrete ledges with marble or granite slabs on top (cost efficient) spaced out to hit back to back

d. steel obstacles - A mounted flat bar at least 14 inches tall, round preferred. also a mounted pole jam

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - hell no

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - roundwall, concrete, pool coping!

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - roundwall, concrete, pool coping!

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - no!

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - a ledge that curves like a C.

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - mini ramp or a 5 stair with a hand rail.

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - a mini bank that has a marble ledge on top

d. steel obstacles - pole jam

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - a hip to over a bearier(like a kicker that lunches you over a barrier)

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - grind boxes, quarter pipes, manny pads of various sizes with coping for grinding

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - wallrides/banks of differenet sizes and angles

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - ledges

d. steel obstacles - rails

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - mini ramp, drop ins, set of stairs, higher platform for tricking off of, hips and pyramids with rails and hubbas

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - none

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - north7 type spot would be ill

b. cement obstacles with no steel edging (custom designed) - a barrior type spot

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - marble or granite ledges for grinds and manuels would be ill

d. steel obstacles - flat bars

e. wood obstacles with ramp armor/skate lite type of covering - mini ramp 5 ft high with a 6 ft extension

f. prefab obstacles purchased from an equipment catalogue - benchs

like one of the choices of materials tell us that or just don't answer it.

a. cement obstacles with steel edging (custom designed) - hubba ledge and a curved ledge

c. stone obstacles (marble/granite, etc) - marble top ledges like 12th and a school